Matthew Macfadyen discusses Season 3 of 'Operation Mincemeat' and the 'Succession.'

Matthew Macfadyen discusses Season 3 of 'Operation Mincemeat' and the 'Succession.' ...

The war drama Operation Mincemeat, directed by John Madden and screenwriter Michelle Ashford, tells the stranger than fiction real-life story of two intelligence officers Ewen Montagu (Colin Firth) and Charles Cholmondeley, who developed a wild strategy to crush Hitler''s grip on Europe and alter the course of World War II. By risking everything and recruiting a dead man to deceive Nazis into believing troops would land in Greece rather than Sicily in 1943, their game-changing

Macfadyen talked about getting the film done with a coworker, finding Montagu and Cholmondeley''s strong personality, and how the black humor paired out the challenging aspects of this wild true story. He also talked about the Season 3 finale of Succession, and when he knew how his wife, Keeley Hawes, would play in it.

Collider: This film is a pleasure because the real story of everything just appears to be so wacky.

MATTHEW MACFADYEN: Yeah, it''s strange that it''s true. I''m aware.

Did you continue to look into details while reading the script, though, to see if they were real?

MACFADYEN: I had the book, but I just didn''t read it. Im a huge fan of Ben Macintyre, who wrote a slew of these true stories. It was simply remarkable because you think, Wow.

If you do a movie that matches you up with a fellow Mr. Darcy, would you suggest sharing information about what you feel about it, or is it just a personal connection that you have?

MACFADYEN: It''s an unspoken, deep bond, where you don''t get to talk about it. We just listened to each other a bit, but we didn''t say anything before. So, we both laughed about it. When we got to do the junket, there''s a bit of pressure. Sometimes, we only play someone who is famously dishy in literature. It''s a funny one. There''s also a film he made called A Month in the

What is it like to work with someone so closely who you had previously been influenced by, and you had noticed his work, but now youe working with him at a time in your career where your peers are? What does that feel?

MACFADYEN: It''s just a real pleasure. It''s all about being on set, and you do it. If you get on and have a great time, then you do it. It''s also a lot of nattering and gossiping. Colin is great friends with Kelly Macdonald, and she''s always nice. It''s a lot of fun to meet someone else. It''s a lot of fun, too.

When you do something like this, where the interaction between the characters is so important, some of that is up to the script, but some of that is also up to what the actors bring to the characters and how they play off each other. Was the interaction between these men something that was very clear on the page? Did you guys have any rehearsals or conversations about it, or did it just feel like everything fell into place?

MACFADYEN: As the story progresses, there''s a love triangle that''s unconfected, dramatically. And when you portray a character as the fictitious Major, it was extremely rewarding to play. And as the story progresses, you see it as a circle that develops. It''s easy to see why it''s been done, however, as the characters evolve. And it''s important to watch; as the story progresses.

In the midst of such an epic tale going on around them, I was fascinated by how truly personal and intimate this story is. Did it really help you identify with the story and these characters more? Did it bolster your sense of belonging to the audience, thus making it more accessible to others?

MACFADYEN: A little bit. Cholmondeley''s mother and her glamorous brother died fighting. He was the heroic older brother. I thought it was so well-written and the levels of play were great. I believe it was important to understand the story and take the time to play it. In situations where there is a lot of black humor, which I believe was a good idea to have.

Im sure you have heard this many times by now, but the Season 3 finale of Succession was absolutely fantastic, and your character was so good.


Why did you think he took the time to cast Shiv so angrier? Was it something you thought about it?

MACFADYEN: I dont know when the moment was. Maybe there was a phone call, when hes at the wedding, and the siblings have gone off to see Logan. Perhaps it was then. Sometimes, we don''t know why we make decisions, in real life. It''s clear to me, nevertheless. Tom just goes, Okay, and he will take him, and Greg comes along and that''s it. There have been a ton of belittings and mini betrayals.

After watching the finale, my first thought was that it was the moment that Tom becomes a real Roy.

MACFADYEN: Yeah. He may have a spine.

From the beginning of the season, did you know about that?

MACFADYEN: I did, in a bleak way, but I did not know the exacts. I forgot about it, so I did not want to be ashamed if it didn''t turn up. So I decided to try and forget about it. I did not know what would happen or how dramatic it would be, or how if it was, until I read episode nine. At the end of Season 3, I figured out how to do it.

It appears that youe developing another wild-sounding real-life tale with Stonehouse, and youe working with your wife, Keeley Hawes, on this, playing a couple.

MACFADYEN: Yes, we''re married and married.

Had you ever been looking for something you might work on? Did you guys get lucky with that?

MACFADYEN: It fell into my lap, and Keeley knew Ruth Kenley-Letts. They are great people, and Ruth said, "It was fantastic." It was fun, but it was fantastic. It was fantastic, and it was a really good day for everyone. It was a pleasure to work together, but you never know it. It was a wonderful journey. It was a tremendous experience. It was such a pleasure, and it was amazing. It was a great experience.

Operation Mincemeat will be available on Netflix on May 11th.

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