Are the Lord of the Rings elf/human relationships as bad as The Rings of Power claims?

Are the Lord of the Rings elf/human relationships as bad as The Rings of Power claims? ...

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power begins with a conversation between Amazon's original character and his friend, which discusses the tragic history of human romance. In his eyes, Arondir is foolish for allowing himself to fall for Bronwyn, a human healer from Tirharad, which he has invented.

The fact is, he's sort of exaggerating. While there aren't many examples of interactions between Elves and humans (at this point in the timeline, there have been roughly two), to simply state that they ended badly is a bit disingenuous.

The most famous tale of a human falling in love with an elf in The Lord of the Rings is, obviously, the story of Aragorn and Arwen: her father says If you want to marry her, you must become the King of Gondor and Arnor, Aragorn does that after the War of the Ring, and Elrond returns home to Valinor never to see his beloved daughter again.

The last part of the conversation is a bit depressing, but given that Arwen chooses a mortal existence which is something that is quite elaborate upon, she and Aragorn spend the rest of their lives together in Middle-earth, which is really lovely. The two relationships that Arondirs pal is referring to are those between Beren and Luthien and Tuor and Idril.

Beren and Luthien

When the mortal man Beren meets the elven princess Luthien in the First Age, the first union between humans and elves occurs. It is one of Tolkien's oldest stories in the entire legendarium, having been written only one year after his return from World War I, almost four decades before The Fellowship of the Ring would be published for the first time.

Beren and Luthien is a very significant story, that it was posthumously turned into an entire book, organized by Tolkiens son and tireless editor Christopher. Beren meets Luthien, and they fall in love, but for the sake of brevity, this is to render the book a disservice. Her father, King Thingol of Doriath, approves, and sets Beren the impossible task of retrieving a Silmaril from Morgoth (if you thought Sauron

After years of hardship, the wolves return to Doriath and get a heros welcome, despite failing to retrieve the Silmaril. Years later, the wolf Carcharoth in the service of Morgoth himself journeys toward Doriath, at which point Beren sets out with a party to complete the Quest of the Silmaril.

Beren dies, but his soul awaits Luthien in the Halls of Mandos. She does some strange spirit stuff and somehow gets an audience with the Valar Manwe, who brings her news of her predicament to Eru Iluvatar literally God. At this point, she chooses the latter and becomes the first elf to die of old age in Middle-earth.

Thats not so bad, right? Beren and Luthien eventually meet up after becoming heroes, and somehow manage to find time to enjoy the rest of their lives together. The history of elves and humans dating is so horrible, according to Arondirs friend. But it's not exactly like it.

Tuor and Idril

In the First Age, the second conflict between elves and humans takes place, this time centered on Tuor and Idril, the elf who face much less judgment than Beren and Luthien, to the extent that Tuor's father, who is also a king, sees Tuor as a son, and says, "You appear to be a nice guy, Id love you to marry my daughter."

Except Maeglin, a weirdo who was so enthralled with Idril and enthralled of Tuor that he sold the whole city out to Morgoth, instigating the Fall of Gondolin (which was later expanded into a full book by Christopher Tolkien).

There are other technically equivalent relationships between humans and elves, although they aren't strictly between Edain and Eldar, which is to say, humans and elves. The majority of these other pairings are between half-elves, or peredhil, or Tuor and Idril (in fact, Arwen is technically peredhil), which is why Arwen stays in Middle-earth while her father, Elrond, returns to live forever.

If their love for Gondolin ended badly, their tale might be interpreted. They escape Gondolin with all of the survivors and rebuild their society at Sirion. They even have a child, Earendil, who will grow up to be a key figure in the legendarium. Eventually, they return to Valinor, where Tuor, who is still loved by the elves, becomes the first man to have immortality among them.

Wow, what a sad day. It all ended badly. Iluvatar forbid that Arondir and Bronwyn do that.

When it came to The Rings of Power, when there were only two unions between humans and elf, I mean, actually, Arondir and Bronwyns odds are pretty good! The other two couples ended up being really happy together. In my opinion, Arondir's friend is just naive about the fact that they may not get to hang out as much anymore.

All of this being said, the fact that Arondirs pal ever mentions any of this at all is kind of foreboding. It's possible that troubles will strike early in the season, especially when you consider Theo, Bronwyns son,'s very Nazgul-y sword.

Yeah, this one will inevitably go bad, but not because the ones before it did.